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Response to "Studies in the Cross of Christ Lesson 4" (Question on Instrumental Music)

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I would like to use your study in a Bible study with our friends.  We used to go to a church of Christ so I understand the language in the study, but what does instrumental music have to do with the cross?   

If you had truly been to the hill and spent time with Christ while he hung there for you and had asked Him what he thought of instrumental music and I am sure you would find that this subject does not belong in your Church of Christ study of the Cross.   

I went up the hill and never was the type of music being played on Sunday ever mentioned as being important.  I think your study would be far more effective if you pull your Church of Christ views out of the Study of the Cross.  I would still like use your study but I would like to pull out the legalistic Church of Christ stuff that hinders the Gospel and is killing His church.   

Stacy  

My Response

Dear Stacy,

I want to thank you for your request to use my home class material:  “Studies in the Cross of Christ.” I actually encourage teachers to made changes to the outlines so that it can taught in the most effective way. If you wish, I can send attachments of these studies in word format so that you may edit them as you see fit.

You ask me the question: “what does instrumental music have to do with the Cross of Christ?” I believe that everything I do and everything I teach should ultimately come from the cross of Christ. Truly, as you have said, I must have “been to the hill and spent time with Christ while he hung there for you” before I do anything else. I must daily take up our cross and follow our Lord (Lk 9:23-24).

At the cross I learn to be crucified, I come to see my complete spiritual destitution and, as a result, I allow Jesus to become my Lord. Because His grace has cleansed me from my sin, I now can walk with the Lord and continue to be forgiven as I walk in the light (Acts 2:38, 1 Jn 1:7-9). This is the foundation from which I then allow Jesus to direct me in every thought and action in my life. “And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him” (Col 3:17). When I cease to let the Lord be first in my teachings and in my life, then I have moved away from the cross.

Just as Jesus taught His disciples, He teaches us. He did not give all instruction to His disciples on any one occasion. He did lay the foundation of repentance and of His Lordship, but other things were taught on that foundation over time. Consider His great commission. And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age” (Mt 28:19-20). All things” are issues of Jesus being my Lord and thus “all things” are tied to the cross. When we try to have one (the relationship from the Cross), without the other (His Lordship), we have moved away from the Cross. We cannot have the benefits of the Cross without Jesus also being Lord in my life.  “But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do the things which I say?” (Luke 6:46).

Look at how the apostle Paul made the controversy over circumcision a Cross issue! Because of Jesus’ death on the Cross, the Old Law was not to be bound upon Christians (Col 2:14-17). In the churches of Galatia, as well as in other churches, Jewish Christians were demanding that Gentile males be circumcised because of the teaching of the Old Law. When we listen to our Lord, we find that He gave no such law (Acts 15:24), and as a result I cannot give into the pressure from those teachers that demanded it.

Are man-made laws and forms of worship of no consequence since they are not specifically mentioned at the Cross or, as you have put it, when “I went up the hill”? Are all religious controversies placed in the realm of not “being important” because of the events of the Cross? I believe this kind of reasoning is foreign to the demands of the Cross. Again, hear the Apostle Paul: “And I, brethren, if I still preach circumcision, why do I still suffer persecution? Then the offense of the Cross has ceased(Gal 5:11) and “As many as desire to make a good showing in the flesh, these would compel you to be circumcised, only that they may not suffer persecution for the Cross of Christ(Gal 6:12). 

Stacy, all of these things teach us that we should open our Bibles and see what the Lord has taught on any given subject. Those who live in the shadow of the cross will do so. Do you realize that we have yet to do that on the question of instrumental music? We have not examined even one verse on that subject. Please be careful that you do not develop a line of reasoning that closes the Bible on any given subject rather than opening it. Philosophical arguments may sound good at first, and they may be intimidating to some, but in the end they fail to actually address the word of God where the only right answers can be found.

The day before you sent me this e-mail I had preached on the subject “Instrumental Music and the Cross of Christ.” I honestly had addressed these very issues before you wrote this timely e-mail! Here are the links to the material:

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http://www.uvachurch.com/Sermons/InstrumentalMusicAndTheCrossOfChrist.pdf

Audio

http://www.uvachurch.com/Audio/InstMusicCrossOfChrist.mp3

PowerPoint

http://www.uvachurch.com/PowerPoint/InstrumentialMusicAndTheCrossOfChrist.ppt

I will be praying for your success in your studies with others about the Cross of Christ! 

In Christian Love,

Larry Rouse

 


Question on Christmas

IS CHRISTMAS CHRIST BIRTHDAY? 

Brenda

Mark's Response

Dear Brenda, 

Thanks for your question: IS CHRISTMAS CHRIST BIRTHDAY?   Thank you also for visiting our web site (www.cvillechurch.com) and for your interest in spiritual matters. 

The Bible does not give the exact date, month, or year of when Christ was born. Many people believe that He was born at “zero” B.C. since B.C. means before Christ. Actually, Christ was born somewhere between 7 and 4 B.C. (A monk named Dionysius Exiguus at the request of the emperor made a new calendar to supersede the old Roman calendar, yet made a mistake when he tried to harmonize the two calendars). 

We may assume that when Christ was born, the climate or weather was milder than the wintertime because of the shepherds keeping their sheep in the field and spending the night watching them (Luke 2:8). The Jews typically sent out their flocks in mountainous and desert areas during the summer months and would bring them in during the latter part of October or early November when it started to get colder. Thus, we may conclude that Jesus was born during the spring or summertime, much earlier in the year than the month of December. 

There is no way to determine what exact day and month of the year Jesus was born. If it was truly important to know this, God in His word would have revealed it:

Deuteronomy 29:29 "The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but those things which are revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may do all the words of this law.”

If we were truly obligated to celebrate Christ's birthday, God would not only have given us the date of His birth in Scripture, He would have also commanded us to do so (which He did not). It is interesting to note that none of the apostles ever celebrated the birthday of Christ and neither did the Christians of the first centuries observe His birthday as an annual, religious observance. 

What the Bible does teach us to observe is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus. We observe it first of all, when we come to the Lord to become Christians and have our sins forgiven by being baptized into Christ (Acts 2:38). Baptism represents the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ (See Rom. 6:3-4; Col. 2:11-12). As Christians, we observe His death, burial, and resurrection every first day of the week by partaking of the Lord's Supper (Acts 20:7; cf. 1 Cor. 11:23-28). We can of course remember His sacrifice everyday of our lives and rejoice in the accomplishments of our Savior who died for our sins and gained victory over death so that we may have life eternal. 

Thanks for your question!  Please don’t hesitate to write us again with any more questions you may have. 

In Christian Love, 

Mark Larson

Mark E. Larson
1617 Brandywine Drive
Charlottesville, VA 22901
markelarson@adelphia.net
www.cvillechurch.com


 

Response to Local Newspaper Ad "A World Without Jesus"

Sir,

Do you really believe that those who do not believe in Jesus have no morals?  Do you think all the Jews, Moslems, and Hindus of the world have no morals   If you think those who do not accept Jesus live with no meaning to life then you are truly part of the American Taliban.  This kind of intolerance for others is why our brave children are fighting and dying in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Shame on you for disrespecting the very values of religious tolerance that were sacred to our founding fathers including a fellow Virginian, Thomas Jefferson. If you were really true to the teachings of Jesus you would not encourage such blatant intolerance on the part of your followers. People who follow such ignorant teachings are the same kind of people who fly planes into buildings to kill "non-believers" .  Shame on you - you do not represent the America that I believe in - Christian or otherwise.  It's unfortunate that you give those of us who believe in freedom another reason to be ashamed of those who claim to speak for us in Virginia - much like the shameful, un-American statements of Virgil Goode.  Maybe we should take your beliefs one step further and have all non-believers rounded up and put into camps. 

What do you think ?   

Mike & Toby
Charlottesville, VA

Larry's Response

Dear Mike,

I want to thank you for taking time to respond to our short newspaper ad “A World Without Jesus” that ran in the Daily Progress. I never intended to suggest in the article that “those who do not believe in Jesus have no morals.” I would join with you in opposing that view! Let me explain what I was attempting to communicate in the ad.

As a Christian, I believe that the historical Jesus was God “in the flesh”
(Jn 1:1-3, 14).
Hence, if there was no Jesus, then there would be no God. I wanted then to examine a world where there was no God, no Bible (or any other revelation of His will) and thus no moral restraint given from God. In this very hypothetical premise, I then explained the consequences.

Most world religions would accept the conclusions that I made, i.e. that if there was no God then the world would descend into chaos and immorality. In the Bible there is a description of the loss of morality when men turn from God
(Rom
1:17-32).

I am trying to point others to examine the evidence for the existence of God and then to encourage them to find His word. I believe there is a desire in every man to know our creator. I do, however, acknowledge that men have perverted that innate desire of man to seek God into a source of much evil. When we have the Taliban, suicide bombers, and mind-controlling cults, then we can see how any religion can be perverted. Some of our church members previously lived in Saudi Arabia and experienced this mindless use of religion to enslave men and promote a political structure.  I would also join with you in opposing such.

As a Christian I do not believe my efforts are best spent in the pursuit of politics and specific political candidates. I will pray for whoever enters into public office (1 Pt 2:13-17).  

I am a relative newcomer to this area. From my observations many here take their politics more seriously than religion. In Alabama, the state where I moved from, many take college football more seriously than religion! It is my goal to leave those things for others to dispute.

If you wanted to reread the ad it is posted on my blog here:

http://larryrouse.blogspot.com/2006/10/world-without-jesus.html

Also, if you wish to examine what we teach then we have a website with all of our sermons and classes posted here:

www.cvillechurch.com

I again thank you for your response, and hope that you will have a different perspective concerning what I was trying to communicate. These short ads are a real challenge to clearly communicate a message.

Please let me know if you have any other questions!

In Christian Love,

Larry Rouse 


Question on Hebrews 10:25

Hi!

First, I would like to say I enjoy your website! My question to you is: "What does the Bible verse Hebrews 10:25 mean to you?" The work "forsake" has cause a big discussion at our Bowling Green Church of Christ. I am very interested in hearing what your congregation feels about this..... I personally think that "forsake" means "to leave completely" others believe it means to miss a Worship service or Bible Study.

Thank you for your time!

Valerie

Mark's Response

Dear Valerie, 

I am very glad to hear that you enjoy our website for the North Charlottesville church of Christ. Letting us know is a great encouragement to us. 

You asked: “What does the Bible verse Hebrews 10:25 mean to you” in connection to the issue of attending the worship services with special emphasis on learning the true meaning of the word forsake in dealing with this subject. Let’s first look at the passage: 

Heb 10:24-25 (KJV) 24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: 25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching. 

“Not forsaking” is a command that Christians are expected by God to keep. Therefore, we should want to know for sure (as you do), it means to forsake.  Forsaking of Heb. 10:25 comes from the same Greek word used in Matthew 27:46: “About the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "ELI, ELI, LAMA SABACHTHANI?" that is, "MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAST THOU FORSAKEN ME?" 

Forsaken comes from the Greek word egkataleipo: 1. to abandon, desert, i.e. to leave in straits, leave helpless, (colloquial, leave in the lurch) ... 2. to leave behind among, to leave surviving” - Thayer's Greek Lexicon.   

Five out of the nine times the Greek word egkataleipo is found in the New Testament are quotations from the Old Testament. Thus, the Greek Old Testament translation (the Septuagint) is helpful to our understanding. Most often, it translates the Hebrew word azab forsake which has the meaning “to loosen ties, to give out,” or “be left defenseless in the hands of an enemy” (that last definition, by the way, is the way Jesus was “forsaken” by God and not abandoned.). There is nothing inherent in the word forsake to suggest to what degree or extent neglect or desertion has taken place. The context is only way to determine this. 

If forsaking the assembling of ourselves together means total abandonment of the practice (or to leave it completely), how could the Hebrew writer say “as it the habit (or manner) of some”? A habit or manner (from ethos) is something that has become a custom or regular practice in our life. The word forsaking, as used in Heb. 10:25, cannot be referring to total abandonment of the practice, for how is it possible to be in the habit of something you no longer do? Some of the brethren had become accustomed to neglecting the practice of assembling themselves with their brethren (To what extent they neglected the practice we do not know). That is why the Hebrew writer wrote of the importance of “exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.” Neglecting the assembling of ourselves together can cause us to become unfaithful and as a result unprepared for the Lord’s coming. Therefore, we need to encourage those who miss worship services and Bible classes and be sure to emphasize the spiritual value and eternal importance of assembling ourselves together. 

When referring to Hebrews 10:25, some brethren often say “do not forsake the assembly” yet the passage says “do not forsake the assembling of ourselves together.” What is the difference? Assembly is a noun and if we say “do not forsake the assembly” it gives the impression we are speaking of one particular assembly. Perhaps this is why too many brethren emphasize the morning assembly above other assemblies of the church and attend the morning service while excusing themselves from other times of assembly. The text says “assembling” - a verb, denoting a continual practice or manner. Thus, it is not just one assembly of the church that we are not to forsake, but rather it is the practice of assembling we are not to forsake.  

How do we know when we are guilty of forsaking (or neglecting) the assembling of ourselves with other Christians? Certainly, it is not determined quantitatively only or by the mere numbers in an attendance record. While those numbers can be quite revealing, they do not explain everything. Sometimes brethren miss for legitimate reasons such as sickness. Other times, brethren may have to miss occasionally because of their work, even though they do everything they can to get out of working on the Lord’s Day. One church with whom I worked had many members who were shift workers at a factory, the main source of income for their families. Many times, they had to choose between attending in the morning or the evening service, depending on the shift given to them. Others have careers that may call one to duty in emergency situations (e.g., law enforcement, physicians, etc.) and may have to miss a service occasionally. 

If the reasons we do not assemble ourselves together are illegitimate, then certainly we are guilty of the sin of neglecting (or forsaking) the practice. What are some reasons why brethren forsook their assembling with other Christians in the first century? The most likely reason was due to the persecution they experienced. Note the context of the passage (Heb. 10:24-25; cf. 32-34). Yet, rarely is this the reason why brethren forsake today. This is a sad irony when sticking to the context of Hebrews 10:25! Instead of persecution, brethren forsake for many shameful reasons such as a lack of planning ahead (Prov. 27:1), the failure to prioritize and put God first (Mat. 6:33; 1 John 2:15-17), a lack of love for the Lord (Mat. 22:37) (Giving only the absolute minimum in attendance is not loving God with all your heart.), an immaturity in Christ (1 Cor. 3:1-3), a richness toward self, not God (Luke 12:15-21) (e.g., career elevated above spiritual things, covetousness), and selfishness (Phil. 2:4; 1 Thes. 5:14). Brethren are often self-centered when they are absent; failing to realize that assembling is not primarily a self-interest activity. First God, then our brethren, then self should be the order. If only brethren understood how their absence affects others! 

Just as the first century Christians “continued steadfastly” in the acts of worship (Acts 2:42), we are to be devoted to assembling ourselves together. Fulfilling the command of Heb. 10:25 is not accomplished by numbers alone, but also by the attitude and commitment that we bring. This leads to the great importance of saints assembling themselves together: We assemble in order to please God because it is a command (Heb. 10:25). If we truly love the Lord, we will keep His commandments (John 14:15). Secondly, it is also an opportunity to worship God, a practice and preparation for Heaven itself! (Heb. 13:15; Rev. 4:1-11). Furthermore, it is a chance to encourage and build up one another, helping each other be faithful until the end (Heb. 10:24-25; cf. 1 Cor. 14:26). It is a wonder then why some Christians forsake the assembling of themselves with other brethren as they do. 

I hope my comments will be helpful to your study on this issue. Please let me know your thoughts. Also, please don’t hesitate to write us again with any questions or comments that you have. Thanks for the feedback!

 

In Christian Love, 

Mark Larson 


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 
 
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